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PTSD please help
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how do you mean can't go anywhere with her... is she aggressive or is it just because she is not a service dog? And Tim and Bailey will be along soon to answer... they are the experts..
oops you said without her.. sorry.. ya Tim will be able to fill you in..
There are two major ways to attain a service dog.
1) go through a program where trainers train the dogs and once they get to a certain level you would go and take a class for several weeks where the final training goes on and you learn to handle the canine. Costs for this kind of training can be limiting for many vets, however there are groups out there that do donate service dogs or take up donations to pay for the training.
2) Training your own service dog. This is the harder of the options as it is very time intensive and you as the trainer/handler should have either a good background in canine training or have a solid group of people and trainers that can help you with the training. How I have done it is with a good trainer that is a good friend who is helping me when I hit a bump in the road. Basic obedience is first and it has to be rock solid, then get your canine good citizen award for the pooch and now you are about ready for working at training the tasks you need the puppy to help you with. Overall, for me it looks like it is going to be about a 2 year process before Khalessi is ready to take her SDiT patch off and replace it with the SD patch.
There are several sites that I would point you to but dont want to put them up here. Just MSG me here and I will forward them to you.
I'm training my dog Mako with the help of Tim and Bailey's group. like Brian said make sure the pooch has been through obedience training and is well behaved. I was lucky, Mako cued into my issues without that portion of training. There are a few tasks I need help with in training Mako. I took Mako back into obedience training classes to re-enforce her obedience so she will pass the canine good citizen award. It is time consuming but you do really bond with the dog. I call Mako my "life line" for helping me in coping around people. Service dogs are great.
ya Nala has the emotional bond, responds to my moods like you don't lmow.. and most of the obedience done.. just need to reinforce the obedience.. and she will be good... but found a trainer to help me out now..
thanks Medic5 you have a cutie to help you out... from your pic
How is Nala doing with the heartworm treatment? I'll have to update Mako's picture, she is no longer a cute puppy, but a good looking adult dog. Not like I'm biasis or anything.
lol she is still that puppy inside.. well she is on round two.. we are doing the steroids and antibiotics right now.. and a potent vitamin supplement.. Roxy's mom (gotta post pics of Roxy.. she is Nala's BFF) is a RN and is going to hook me up with pee pads from the hospital... the steroids have her drinking water like crazy and antibiotics have her on the verge of diarhea... so far so good tho overall no accidents yet....
Will keep you posted.. she is still my barbie doll...
I would looove to see more pics of Mako.... those eyes tell a story.. true love...
I have a service pug that has been trained by me under a pro's guidance. In addition to crowd control in public, he is trained to deal with my seizures, and a number of other tasks. He IS a pet, but a well trained pet that easily differentiated from our other two dogs. It actually upsets me a bit that the little dude spends so much time taking care of my ass rather than being a dog, but we make a great team. I learned that often, pets do not make good service animals, however this is not always true.
The tricky part is that currently PTSD dogs count as "Emotional Support Animals" so they are not covered by the usual service dog laws in many places. It stinks, but there are far too many of the Purse-Chihuahua Club that took advantage of the title and make it difficult for those of us that actually need them.
My advice is do what I did : work with your doctor and the Veterans Administration to get down the correct path.
I think service dogs feel more of a dog because of their role... it is one thing to roam with the pack so to speak.. another to have an active role in the pack... the pack being you and the dog..
Nala has another boxer friend here named Roxy, both are fairly well trained... Nala has a problem with wanting to jump on people and Roxy's human has done wonders in training her to not do that. It melts my heart now to see Nala go to a sit position automatically when Cindy comes out to the courtyard. And Nala's tail (stump lol) just a wagging because she is making one of the alpha's happy..She is pleased that we are pleased with her and does everything she can to please us more..
Look on it as the other dogs only wish they could get as much attention as a service dog gets..
oh and ya I saw on the service dog registry website Therapy Dogs cannot be registered there... I guess it is too big of a loophole.. I think I am going to get Nala trained to turn on the lights or something for me as my left wrist is nothing but titanium and surgical stainless pins and plates and totally immovable... (never mind my right one is fine) Just to get that certification.. I dont see that as bucking the system or cheating the service dog laws... I don't always need her out there but there are times I would love to have her out there... i.e. bad week, feeling the someone is behind me type moments..
That website is a bunch of bullshit. LOL Be careful of the web. real service dogs don't need to be registered on some website.
Since you have a physical disability, you fit into a different catagory from poor bastards like me that have no publicly visible "real damage". (My zombie face and neck don't count...) You really should get with your Docs and the VA on the matter!
meh my physical disability is not exactly that.. I learned to switch to my right hand.. there's no prob.. I know what you mean about the unseen disability... which is why I want Nala to be able to go out with me on bad days/weeks..
And tim and bailey steered me to it so I trust them on the issue...
ya I am gonna get with them.. moreso the DAV... the VA can suck it I am kinda pissed at my primecare doc right now.. nothing but tests tests tests but nothing gets done.. mentally my psych team is the bomb tho..
I got my dog who was actually a drop out from a service dog school. She was perfectly behaved though, and that was the reason I wanted her.
I'm glad that you rescued the dog. All dogs are great. Ben you might try talking to Tim and Bailey. Also if you go to vets4vets.com, they can offer help also. Vets4vets is an organization of PTSD veterans who have trained their service dogs. They are a great group of men and women.
Ours is a rescue, some horrible excuse of a human being threw her out of a car window. Couldn't wish for a better, friend and pet
people I hate are those that hurt animals and children. The abusers should get what they have dished out to the innocent. If I had the money I would start a Safe haven for abused animals on my property. I would take horses, mules, donkeys, dogs, cats even llamas and sheep.
Rescued animals are so grateful for someone to love them make fantastic pets, but most importantly a wonderful true friend.
The sanctuary is a great idea, but I'm scared witless of horses!
She was a shell of an animal when we scooped her of the street, totally different now. Such a personality, would of been lost without her since coming back.
Sat her chuckling at her now actually. We set a fish tank up for the kids, and the hound is sat there hypnotised by it lol! Will try and get a pic up of her watching the fish, she hasn't moved in about half an hour
please post a pic Dave, I will post more of Nala... who (yes again!) is in bed sleeping snoring like a grown ass man... lol I love my lil girl... Medic5 knows.... the sun rises and sets for her!
I need to post a pic of her on her pain meds when she got her shot for heart worms... one sec...
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